Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton

Friday, July 07, 2006

US crude hits record high
Friday July 7, 7:17 AM EDT
LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. crude oil futures rose to a fresh record high above $75 a barrel on Friday, boosted by strong demand in top consumer the United States.
By 1109 GMT, U.S. crude had risen as high as $75.42, up 2 cents from the previous record hit this week.
LET'S STOP DEPENDING ON FOREIGN FUEL
THINK GREEN
FEEL THE WIND, THINK CLEAN!!!!

posted by Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton at 4:50 AM

12 Comments:

  • Please explain how wind power will reduce our dependence on foreign oil - when less than 2% of electricity is generated with oil in 2006 and within a few years it will be 0%?

    Explain your claim? Hopefully UPC isn't making this claim --- that would be against New York General Business Law - Deceptive Practices - misleading product claims.

    Formosa

    By Blogger formosa, at 3:51 PM  

  • Jim, I guess you don't realize that electric is used to heat some homes, and to heat hot water in some homes. Oil is not renewable, wind is. It is really hard to understand you, since you have a wind turbine of your own. Why did you put it up? --Oh we know, just a decoration! If you have so much trouble with Wind Power why are you not addressing the issues with our government who is supporting the development?

    By Blogger Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton, at 4:55 PM  

  • That’s telling them Jimmy. Most of our electric comes from coal and nuclear.
    Unless of course they are talking about all the diesel used to transport all that coal to the plants. The diesel needed to move the fuel rods in and out of the nuclear plants. Diesel needed to bury the spent rods. Gas to power the cars of the all the workers needed around the clock to monitor combustion plants.
    Gee, I guess when your generator is surrounded by the fuel it uses, you just might save some crude oil.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:40 AM  

  • So what you are saying is that we don't need wind power, we need to convert homes from oil heat to electric heat, which then uses natural gas, nuclear and coal.

    Since electricity is not produced using oil today - wind isn't the factor in reducing oil consumption. Maybe the group should be called "YESTOELECTRICITY" and you can crusade on behalf of NYSEG?

    Since you are facinated - let's talk about my 10 foot personal wind turbine, if someone didn't tell you, you would not have known I had it. Certainly none of my neighbors. I live off the grid, with no public electric service. This only was due to the beautiful views at the top of my property, and the resulting high cost of running electric to the homesite. Homesteading, during the first 4 months, we had no electricity at all.

    We started out with a diesel generator, investgated in alternative energy and two years later, installed a 10 foot 3kw wind turbine to eliminate the diesel. It was advertised to provide enough to power a home. It was expensive, and hasn't produced nearly the power claimed, we are thinking of decommissioning it. We've been quite disappointed and our diesel continues. When the wind blows it produces, but far too often it doesn't and the diesel runs and runs. And no, not a single dime in subsidies.

    I guess you don't understand the difference between a 10 foot windmill on a basketball pole off the grid and an industrial complex.

    We certainly don't understand each other. I don't understand YES, which as private citizens represents, protects and agressively promotes an outside for profit corporation.

    Since the town is choosing to be the lead agency, I will continue to address with the town as well as the state and federal levels.

    The state government isn't mandating dropping these complexes in zoned residential land. The developers are the ones that are cherry picking the locations, not the government.

    How UPC came here 4 years ago in spite of a comprehensive plan, zoning, and no wind turbine law is what I don't understand.

    Like the boom/busts in the 80's and 90's --- industrial wind still doesn't provide the benefits it claims for the costs (economic and environmental) it imposes. The current project process is shameful and needs to be regulated.

    Town governments are not equiped to properly evaluate these projects in an objective manner. UPC is not dealing with our government or citizens with facts but marketing spin/fluff.

    All of us who will be living with this project for the rest of our natural lives, and the next two generations or longer, including YES should be holding UPC to the highest levels of accountability in representation and conduct.

    Formosa

    By Blogger formosa, at 7:19 AM  

  • Georgie -

    What a myopic view of industry. Are you really suggesting that wind power will decommission nuclear and coal plants?

    Since there is no evidence to support your theory --- after all, 60,000 wind turbines has not decommissioned any of these conventional plants --- please explain how we would be saving diesel again?

    But let's say your right --- how much exactly in diesel will we save in "theory" and how many jobs eliminated per wind turbine?

    In your wind reduces all theory, you are suggesting that we would be saving gas by the "former" employees of the decommissioned conventional power plant, now what - switching to bicycles? --- or do you think these personnel would find another job that would require them (as controversial as it may be) driving their car to another job?

    My goodness, taking your position, we could save alot of crude oil by eliminating farming by tractor!

    As you practice what you preach, it's refreshing your pet industry's wind turbine complexes aren't constructed using oil. How do wind powered ships, trucks, cranes and bulldozers work exactly? What happens when the wind stops blowing --- does everyone take a long break? How do the workers ride bicycles all the way to the job site? They must really be in shape.

    Oh final question, what powers the maintenance, lighting and monitoring equipment of the 50-100 turbines when the turbines are stopped? Is there a hand crank?

    Formosa

    By Blogger formosa, at 8:03 AM  

  • Yes! Wind Power For Cohocton and its supporters remind me of the monkey that has found a peanut inside a jar that he wants. He reaches in to get the tempting morsel and finds himself frustrated beyond measure when he clenches his fist to secure the object of his lust and although is seems so close … he can’t get his hand out.

    Yes! Wind Power For Cohocton members remind me of this monkey in the fact that they can’t break the jar. They present their spin on the issues only to find the jar is not broke. They scream and hop around as this frustrated monkey declaring “no loss in property value!”, “no ice throw”, “these are green”, “it’s our patriotic duty”, “they reduce the use of oil”… and yet, the jar does not break. Your spin is not effective and you are losing ground on your arguments because as this issue lingers on, more and more facts are coming out to to defeat the logic of your spin.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:33 AM  

  • Postings by formosa are the writings of James Lince, Wagner Gully Rd., Cohocton, New York.

    By Blogger Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton, at 5:14 AM  

  • well jim since you don't want to post both on your blog I will comment also. there are studies out there stating how it will cut down foreign oil if you care to read them. You are a pretty thin skined in the real world aren't you
    when you stand up at a town and say don't piss down my back and tell me its raining just showing your true colors uh jimbo

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:11 PM  

  • Mr Lince,
    I just do not understand how you can contradict yourself so often. You state that less than 2% of electricity is produced using oil, then you continue in another post to say oil is not used to produce electricity. Hmmm later in that same post you state that you use diesel to produce your electricity. Is this diesel produced using oil?

    You further state you have a 3kw wind generator located on a basketball pole. I would like to offer a suggestion to improve the performance of that turbine (yes folks it is a turbine) raise the height of the turbine if you would like to know the basis of that suggestion please visit www.bergey.com where you will find that raising the tower height to 100 feet will increase your output immensely. ( hmmm could this be why Wind Towers are so tall)You also state the wind turbine you own was very expensive, I don't understand why you would decommission it as any electricity produced from it should help offset the cost of the diesel for the generator. This should help you recover some of the cost of the wind turbine. (simple economics)
    Now with the average home in the NYSEG service area using 600Kwh hours of electricity per month I would say your wind turbine is grossly undersized. (maybe you should have gone for the 10Kw 220V or the 7.5 Kw DC model and battery storage) Did you do research before purchasing this turbine? The only reason I can see for you to decommission the turbine is if you did not get a permit to install it. (as you appear to have proclaimed yourself the un-official PERMIT POLICE for the Town of Cohocton)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:21 PM  

  • Anonymous: Taking points out of context and calling that a contradiction doesn't wash. Obviously electricity can be generated from many sources and is. The topic was utility supplied power. 1-2% statistically is not a factor. Oil is not a factor in utility generated electric power.

    Contact me directly for further.

    By Blogger formosa, at 7:32 AM  

  • The writings of Blazegd are those of Mark Densmore.

    By Blogger Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton, at 12:37 PM  

  • The postings of formosa are the writings of Jim Lince, Wagner Gully Rd. Cohocton, N. Y.

    By Blogger Yes! Wind Power for Cohocton, at 6:32 PM  

Post a Comment

<< Home